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My Worst Sales Meeting EVER

Posted on June 3rd, 2011.

fightBack when I first started doing business development as part of my consulting role, I had an absolutely awful experience in a sales meeting.

So bad I still get a knot in my stomach thinking about it.

But I'm going to tell you about it in all its gory detail because I think there are some useful lessons to be learned from it for all of us.

Here's the story…

I'd just finished running a project to improve the marketing capabilities of a manufacturing client based in Paris.

The project had been a huge success and we'd already seen over 10% improvements in sales in every country where we'd implemented the new strategies for them. A really big deal as they were in an ultra competitive market.

I'd closed the deal on the initial project, then run it and sold a couple of extensions over an 18 month period. Somewhere over $5m in total.

The idea was that I'd speak to the head of marketing of a similar business based in the UK to explain to them what we'd done and sell them an equivalent project.

This was my first time opening up a client relationship like this from scratch and it was a big opportunity for me personally to make a name for myself as a “rainmaker”. I really wanted to make this work and saw this as a critical first step to my next promotion.

We got the meeting set up through our telemarketing team – and we knew from our research that this client was struggling and needed the sort of improvements we were capable of delivering for them.

I was pretty nervous before the meeting, but the guy was friendly and pretty soon I was into the flow – explaining the case study and going through all the fantastic benefits and bottom line improvements my client had seen from our work together.

I came to the end of my case study and waited for him to start asking questions.

Nothing.

I waited some more.

Still nothing.

“Let me tell you about some of the other things we did”, I said, and launched into some more examples from the project.

Still no response.

I had absolutely no idea what to do next. The guy was like a stone wall. He showed no emotions. No interest.

“Is there anything you'd like to discuss?” I asked.

“No thank you”.

And that was about it. I can't remember exactly how we closed out the meeting – it's a bit of a blur. But I was so embarrassed and uncomfortable I just wanted to get out of there.

Not surprisingly, nothing came of the meeting, and it didn't result in me instantly becoming a legendary rainmaker.

Now you can probably spot a number of very basic errors I made. As a starter I spent far too much time talking, and not enough time asking questions and listening.

And when he didn't respond – when he stonewalled me – I was far too passive. After all, he agreed to give up an hour of his time to meet with me – there must have been something on his mind that he thought he could get out of the meeting.

But what I think was at the core of my problems in that meeting was my attitude.

I was far too needy, too desperate to make the sale.

So when there was silence, I felt pressured to fill it.

When the potential client wasn't cooperating, I didn't call his bluff. I didn't want to upset him. I played along instead.

As a result, we didn't have a peer-to-peer conversation. It was vendor-to-potential customer.

Me trying to please him.

And that's just not the right tone when you're trying to establish a trusted advisor relationship. The potential client can feel you're trying too hard. That you're desperate to make the sale. And it doesn't feel right to them – they don't feel they can trust someone who's trying to sell them.

Why did I fall into that subservient role?

I put myself under too much pressure to make the sale.

In my case, it was because I wanted to make rapid career progress. I was “on a roll” and I was desperate to make the next leap up. But it backfired.

Today I see the same problem with solo professionals and small businesses who put themselves under far too much pressure in their sales meetings. In their case, the problem is that they need almost every meeting they have to result in a sale. Their pipeline is weak and they have very few sales meetings lined up – so almost every one of them needs to convert.

And it backfires.

As a consultant, coach or other professional, the more you feel you need to make a sale, they less likely you are to exhibit the kind of peer-level trusted advisor behaviours that your clients are actually looking for. And so the less likely you are to make the sale.

It's why very often when clients ask me how to improve their conversion rate of meetings to sales, my answer is often nothing to do with the sales meetings themselves. It's to improve their marketing so they're getting many more meetings with people who are more likely to become clients and so they’re less desperate to sell in each one.

Once they have a steady flow of quality leads and the pressure to sell in each meeting is off, they're much more likely to have an effective meeting. And paradoxically, they're much more likely to sell.

Could this apply to you?

Have a look at your numbers. If you find you need to convert a very high percentage (50%+) of your leads to sales in order to hit your targets then the chances are you don't have enough leads and you're putting yourself under too much pressure.

Rather than trying to polish your sales techniques and get an ultra-high conversion rate, take a look at how you can generate more high-quality leads.

PS – click here for my short video with a step by step approach to becoming a trusted advisor

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Why "Finding the Pain" is a bad strategy

Posted on May 29th, 2011.

I've been a big fan of Alan Weiss's work for a number of years.

It was probably reading Million Dollar Consulting while on holiday in Hong Kong many years ago that inspired me to go solo.

I don't always agree with everything he says (I suspect Alan would say those are the times when I'm wrong). But his arguments are always well made and based on probably more experience of high level solo consulting than anyone else.

One of the thing's I've heard Alan say on a number of occassions is that “finding the pain” went out with the ark. That it's no way to sell your services.

That had always puzzled me. Finding the pain for me means diagnosing the client's problems and understanding which are the biggest priority (and so motivating them to buy).

I always wondered what he didn't like about it. Perhaps he considered it to be manipulative or something?

Thanks to the power of the web, these days we have a chance to interact with “superstars”, not just read their books. So when Alan repeated this statement on a blog post recently I asked him to elaborate.

His answer was incredibly significant.

His point was not that “finding the pain” was unethical – or even that it didn't work. But that it led to commoditisation. Problem solving to address clear areas of pain is something most organisations have got good at, and that a whole bunch of consultants and coaches can do pretty well.

Or put it this way, lots of car mechanics and engineers can fix a broken engine. But how many can design and build a new one?

Who is it that gets paid the big bucks? Not the guy down your local repair shop.

So by focusing on aspirations and innovation instead you set yourself ahead of the pack. You're not easily copied, and you're not doing work that the client finds difficult to justify paying high fees for because they could probably have done it themselves.

To my mind, this is more important today than it's ever been.

Whether we're talking about decreasing purchasing costs, writing a marketing plan, creating a website or improving your people management skills: 5 years ago if you needed to do it you had a very limited choice of people you could find to help who you were confident would do a good job.

These days you can go online and find decent free guidance, buy a training course, or hire one of a myriad of competent advisors willing to help at highly competitive rates.

So for consultants and coaches, the days of an easy six figure income just because you're skilled in something clients need are over. It's just too easy for clients to find competent help at low cost.

If you do want that six figures and more income then simply solving problems isn't going to be enough. You have to help them innovate. Achieve something they didn't even know was there. Deliver something remarkable the problem-solvers can't match.

Sure, you might have to start by fixing some core problems – find the pain and stop the bleeding in medical terms. But you then have to move on to something much bigger.

If that's making you feal uneasy, it's a good thing. It makes me feel uneasy too because the implications are big.

It means we have to constantly stay at the leading edge of our field. We can't just learn our trade then happily ply it for 20 years.

And it means we have to find the clients that need more than problem solving. That have the appetitie for something bigger.

But it also means we're going to have an interesting and rewarding time doing it.

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Did you know?

Posted on May 29th, 2011.

We've come a long way since I sent you the email Hope is not a Strategy.

We've talked about finding your niche, developing a compelling value proposition, figuring out what marketing approaches will work for you, nurturing relationships, selling and managing clients.

Now I'm sure a lot of times you read some of the emails, thought “I know that” and moved on.

But I'd ask you to consider something for a moment.

Something that applies not just when you read my emails,  but whenever you read any hints, tips and guidelines – or when you're on a training course.

“Success in marketing and business development is driven not by what you know – but by what you do.”

I've seen it lots of times in training courses: those I've delivered, and when I've been a student too. I've seen it when people read books or websites.

I do it myself.

The moment I hear something I know already I get a satisfied glow. I nod sagely. I kind of feel validated.

And that warm, validated feeling seems to stop me from asking the killer question:

Not “do I know this?”

But “do I do this?

Because that's the question that leads to action.

That's the question that leads to improvement.

And that's the question that leads to results.

So next time you read or hear something about marketing or sales (or pretty much anything) and you find yourself thinking “yeah yeah, I know this – nothing new” – catch yourself. Change that thought.
Try:

“Do I do this?”

Then “Should I do this?”

Then “When will I do this? How will I do this?”

And then you'll start progressing in leaps and bounds.

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Talking when there’s nothing to talk about

Posted on May 22nd, 2011.

Hey there – it's Ian here again.

In my last email I railed against the practice of equating marketing and relationship building with “schmoozing” and highlighted that the best way of building relationships with clients can be to overdeliver on your projects with them.

But that doesn't mean you should restrict your relationships with clients to just business.

It just means you should see relationship building as an intrinsic part of delivery, not something unrelated you swoop in and do later.

And often it's the little side conversations or the informal chats over coffee where the client opens up and shares information that may turn into opportunities in other areas for you.

As he often does, David Maister sums it up well. In his video on “The Rules of Relationships” he says “The key to great communication is talking when there's nothing to talk about. If you only talk when the kids have been arrested, you will deal with the issues, but you won't build the relationship”.

You can watch the video here by the way:

Rules of Relationships

Every interaction you have with your client is a chance to build your relationship – or not.

Focus first on delivering or overdelivering on your engagement. But do also take the time to talk about bigger, wider issues. Or just to build your relationship on a human level too.

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"Filter Bubble" Marketing

Posted on May 18th, 2011.

I recently watched a thought provoking TED talk by Eli Pariser on the dangers of Online “Filter Bubbles”.

Pariser noticed that Facebook and other social networks have started filtering what you see based on your actions on the site (Google's beginning to do the same with search results). In Eli's case, because he mainly clicked on the links of his liberal-minded contacts it started filtering out posts from his conservative contacts.

As he pointed out, what that does is create little “filter bubbles” around us online where we only get to see things we're already interested in, agree with, or are positive towards.

But, of course, as a sensible thinker – he doesn't want to just see the things he already agrees with. He wants to be challenged – to see alternative points of view (and so should we). Hence the danger of these filter bubbles.

Putting aside philosophy for one minute – it got me thinking about the impact on marketing.

I think we have a very similar situation going on. And it's about the difference between selling people what they need and what they want.

In the good old days (or bad old days, depending on your perspective) when marketing and selling was primarily in-person, you had a chance to “open your client's eyes” to what they really needed – even if they didn't originally realise it.

They didn't know they were paying way over the odds for their stationery. But when you got chatting to them at a networking event you were able to ask a few questions and help them see what was they were missing.

They didn't realise what an impact their poor leadership skills had on employee turnover and the growth of their business. But your presentation to the local chamber opened their eyes and they came up to see you after the event.

But nowadays, where so much of marketing has switched online, you just don't get those “eye opening” opportunties.

They might have come to your leadership seminar at the local chamber because they always go to chamber events and there wasn't much else on. On the web, there are a million choices and options for them to go elsewhere.

You might have had them as a captive audience for short discussion at that networking event. On the web, they just don't bother clicking on emails or discussion threads that they're not already interested in.

And they don't “bump into” you like they do in the face to face world. On the web, they search for what they want and if you don't match that, they never see you.

And with the increasing prevalence of filters, chances are they're not going to see anything at all you do on social media unless they're already interested in what you're saying before you say it.

So in other words, trying to sell what you know they need (even if they don't) is becoming inceasingly futile online. Like shouting into the wind.

What's the answer? How do you sell to people in filter bubbles?

It's not simple – but a good place to start is to switch your emphasis away from persuasion (from convincing whoever is in front of you that they really need what you have) and towards search (finding the people who already want what you have).

And if you do have something that people need but don't know they do, you've got to find some way of framing it in terms of what they already want.

They need to improve leadership skills? Couch it in terms of the business growth or improved productivity they already want.

Start with where they are, not where you want them to be and maybe you'll be able to break into their filter bubble

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Many thanks to James Ward who introduced me to Eli Pariser's talk on TED, and to Julie Kay who added more thoughts on focusing on people who already know they need what you have.

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How To Escape Marketing Overwhelm

Posted on May 17th, 2011.

Do you ever feel overwhelmed when you look at your pipeline and think about what you need to do to fill it?

You're not alone.

I think it's the curse of business owners and executives these days. You look at how many new clients you need to bring in to hit your targets and then you try to think about how you're going to do it.

But it's so difficult to know where to start. What will actually work?

Back in the day, you pretty much had the choice of networking, direct mail, telemarketing or advertising when it came to marketing. Each with their own established best practices and rules.

Today we've got organic and paid search, social media, social media ads, video marketing, email marketing. And it all seems to be changing all the time.

I've lost count of the number of “next big thing” emails I've had trying to convince me to buy the latest and greatest method for getting a so-called flood of clients with some newfangled technique.

And that's just Facebook!

When you're just starting out – or even if you're fairly well established – it can all be so overwhelming. So difficult to know what to do.

It was a big issue for me when I set out on my own. In some ways because I focus on marketing and sales it's worse – because I deliberately keep tabs on all the newest approaches.

Every time I tried to think of what I should do I couldn't get a clear picture in my mind. And all the stories of other people succeeding with this method or that method just confused me further.

So how on earth do we figure out what to do without spending every waking hour networking, phoning, tweeting or blogging?

Well, what follows is an approach I evolved that worked for me to clear the fog of uncertainty and give me some clarity on what to do.

I can't promise it will work for you – but give it a try – it's been helpful to a number of people I've shown it to.

The key to is to break down your marketing into manageable chunks. Ones you can think about sensibly. Too often, when we think about how we're going to get new clients we lump all our potential clients into one amorphous blob.

And you know what? You can't market to an amorphous blob.

So I found it helpful to split my clients into Top Clients and Others. For me, Top Clients are the top 10 clients I'd really love to win over the next 6 months. Clients who – if I got to do business with just one or two of them – could set me up for the year. For you it might be a top 5 or a top 20. But essentially it's a small number of ideal clients you can think about individually.

You could go more sophisticated and split into A/B/C or suchlike. But let's keep things simple for now.

The “others” are clients I'm not going identify specifically or do a specific plan for – too many of them. But I do aim to win a number of them via more general marketing.

Then I split my marketing into short term and long term.

Long term marketing is all about building “gravity”. Doing the things that will attract clients to you so you don't have to actively seek them out. Thought leadership, stuff with your website and the like.

But long term marketing takes time before it pays off. So you also need some short term activities to try to bring in clients right now. The kind of stuff that pays the bills while you work on the long term side.

Then – because I'm a consultant and it's part of the union rules – I draw a little 2 x 2 matrix to represent this. Client types on one axis and time frame on the other. Rather like this:

Then I think through what marketing activities would be the most appropriate in each box for each client type/time frame combination.

Splitting it up like this makes it much easier. Instead of struggling to see what marketing will magically work for all clients in all circumstances, I can take a “horses for courses” approach. It's much easier to see what marketing will work in the short term for my top 10 clients, or to nurture relationships with the thousands of “other” prospects who visit my website for example.

Usually, I end up thinking about referrals and extending existing client relationships for my top clients in the short term. And I develop unique, personalised nurture plans to build my relationship with my top prospects in the long term.

For the broader set of target clients, I'll may pencil in approaches like webinars or direct mail in the short term – and I'll focus on using email marketing nurture campaigns in the long term. Here's an example of what the matrix might look like for a typical client:

Of course, your matrix will look different depending on your analysis of what marketing approaches will work for your specific clients – and what you're good at.

But the key is that by breaking it up into this matrix rather than trying to eat the elephant all in one go, you zap the overwhelm.

As I say, I can't promise it'll work for you – but it's worked for me and many others – I suggest you give it a go.

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Superpleasing your way to success

Posted on May 15th, 2011.

In these recent emails we've focused mainly on how to attract and win new clients.

But once you've got 'em, how do you get 'em to stay – and to buy more from you?

The best method I've found is the concept of “superpleasing” introduced by David Maister in his classic work “Managing the Professional Services Firm”.

We all know that getting more work from existing clients can be the most profitable source of new business. They already know us and trust us – and we've (hopefully) done good work for them.

So it should be a much easier sell to get them to buy more from us – provided they need the other things we're offering.

Sadly, in most businesses and also for individual practitioners – we focus most of our marketing effort on much lower payoff activities.

Running an advertising campaign, trying to cold call new prospects, or networking to meet new people, for example.

It just seems kind of sexier to focus on brand new clients than it does to build our relationships with our existing and previous ones.

And when we do try to market to existing clients, we often go about it completely the wrong way.

We equate marketing with meetings and “schmoozing”. We invite the client out to an event. Or we arrange for our managing partner to meet them to “chat them up”.

Those are the things our marketing budget is geared up for – events and non-billable time.

Now there's nothing wrong with these activities. Sometimes they're just the right thing. But more often than not there's something much more effective you can do with your time and money.

Think about it from your client's perspective instead.

If you were your client, what would be more valuable to you:

  • a chat with the managing partner (who probably doesn't really know your business all that well)
  • or the person working with you massively over-delivering on the work they're doing?

90% of the time, clients will go for the latter.

So instead of spending our marketing time and money schmoozing our clients – we should spend it “superpleasing” them.

Instead of spending time with clients at a social or business event, or in “marketing meetings” – spend it on the project you're working with them on and do an even better job than you would have done otherwise.

Instead of buying an advert or putting on a marketing event – spend the money to arrange a value-added session with your client's management team where you show them 5 new ways of implementing the results of your work and getting a better ROI.

In short, spend your time and money in any way you can think of so that the client not only thinks you did a great job for them (which should be the baseline) but that they think you've done the best job of any service provider they've hired.

Ever.

Don't think marketing – think value for your client.

Now you can't do this for every client. You need to focus on the high priority ones who have the potential to give you lots of new business, or strong referrals to other potential clients.

But if you superplease them like this it's the strongest way of getting them to buy more and to recommend you with enthusiasm

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Marketing that Actually Works

Posted on May 12th, 2011.

Here's a little video showcasing some highly effective marketing that worked on me last week – despite my best efforts to look down on it and ignore it.

There's plenty to learn here about grabbing attention, building interest and creating a compelling case for action. It's for a product, rather than a service but the principles can be equally applied to consulting, coaching or any other profession.

Hope you enjoy it – and hope you start your own swipe file too.

Ian

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Marketing lessons from a geeky kid

Posted on May 8th, 2011.

As promised, a bit of a personal story this time…

I was never very popular at school.

Don't get me wrong: I was never bullied, and I had a good circle of close friends.

But I wasn't one of those kids who was popular with everyone. I wasn't very sporty, and I wasn't really interested in music.

I was much happier thinking about computers and what happened in the previous night's episode of Blake's Seven (and if you remember Blake's Seven it means you're probably as old and as geeky as me).

Within my small circle of friends with similar interests, I was well-liked and listened to, and I felt appreciated.

But every now and then, I wished I was one of the cool kids. One of the ones everyone liked.

So every now and then I'd look up what was in the pop charts. Find something to say about the school rugby team.

Something with broad appeal rather than the geeky stuff I liked myself. Something funny or clever I hoped everyone would like.

You can probably guess what happened next.

My attempts to please everyone never got anywhere. Passing comment on the current number one was certainly a more “acceptable” topic to the majority than the ins and outs of the latest Commodore Pet computer.

But it was no different to what everyone else was saying. It didn't turn anyone off. But neither did it turn anyone on.

Eventually, I learned that it was far better and far more personally satisfying to engage meaningfully with my small circle of friends.

We'd discuss Sci-Fi and computers. We liked model trains and other nerdy stuff that makes me cringe thinking back.

But the truth is I built deeper and more meaningful relationships with that small group by focusing on what we really liked than I ever got near to by trying to please everyone.

And the same goes for marketing.

Whether you're communicating by email, or you're giving a presentation, there's a huge temptation to focus on the majority. To not say anything controversial and to try to please everyone.

But when we try to please everyone, we end up coming across as bland and wishy-washy.

We may not upset anyone, but neither do we inspire anyone.

And whether you want people to be friends with you or to buy from you – you have to inspire them. Not upsetting them is not enough.

So if you're writing an email – write for your real core audience, don't worry about the rest. Don't worry about losing subscribers and getting complaints from the people who don't like what you have to say.

They were never going to become your clients anyway.

If you're giving a presentation, don't worry about your scores on those awful feedback sheets.

All you should care about is your impact on the few audience members who might become customers or who might go out and do something with your message.

Focus on inspiring the few, not mollifying the many.

And actually, you'll find that there are more of the few than you think. Certainly enough to help you build a flourishing business.

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Are you Spam?

Posted on May 4th, 2011.

Are You Spam?Are your presentations and seminars thinly disguised pitches for your services?

When you phone up contacts and ex-clients, is it only ever when you want them to hire you or refer you?

Are your articles and blog posts mainly teasers for the “real stuff” which people have to hire you for?

When I meet you at a networking event do you hit me with a cleverly constructed elevator pitch designed to grab my attention and interest in how you can help me?

Take a minute to think about your marketing and business development practices.

Really.

Don't just read on to the next sentence. Think about which of them create value for your clients and prospects in and of themselves. And which are simply you promoting your services.

Lots of the latter and not so many of the former? Then your marketing is the real-world equivalent of spam.

An unsolicited, unwanted, annoying interruption.

Am I being a bit tough here? Setting an unrealistic standard?

I don't think so.

The bar is raising all the time for marketing. Each and every one of us is getting less and less tolerant of being interrupted and sold to.

So when we're the ones doing the marketing, we need to keep up.

We need our marketing to inform, educate or entertain in areas that our clients care about. Preferably all three. Just “getting your name out there” is no longer good enough.

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This post was inspired by the discussion on copywriting headlines on Lindsey Donner's How to be Amazing at Everything blog post.