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Frank Sinatra marketing

Posted on December 17th, 2017.

As I sat down to write this weekend's email, I could hear Frank Sinatra's “In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning” playing on the TV in our living room, presumably from a show Kathy was watching.

(I just checked. It turns out the show is “The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel” which looks quite good).

When I was young I was into punk rock and goth music. You'd never have caught me listening to ol' blue eyes.

As I've got older I still like a bit of noisy, spiky music. But I appreciate the classics rather more now.

And I'm sure it's the same with marketing.

It's fun to play with newfangled ideas and tools. And basing your marketing on new trends and current issues helps it seem fresh.

But just like with music, your clients will always return to the “classics”. The big problems or goals that keep them up at night year-in, year-out.

My gut feel is that your marketing should focus on 80% “classics” and 20% “news”.

In my case, for example, all my Sunday emails are on classic topics. So I can put them in an autoresponder and reuse them for years. That frees me up to do more topical broadcasts during the week (though usually, I focus on classic topics there too).

How much of your marketing is focused on your “classics” and how much are you having to scrabble around each week looking for new things to focus on.

My guess is we'll still be listening to Frank next millennium. Your marketing doesn't need to last that long, but I'd aim for years rather than weeks.

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Don’t make this costly assumption

Posted on December 13th, 2017.

Because we spend lots of time thinking about our field of expertise – be that sales, leadership, supply chain or whatever – it's easy to assume that our clients have the same level of awareness as us.

And if we've got experience working with a major corporate who knew that coaching (or whatever your particular way of working is) was an incredibly effective way of improving the performance of their managers, it's easy to assume that all our potential clients know that too.

But it's always a huge and costly mistake to assume you know what your clients want.

No matter how much you can see that the issue behind all your client's problems is the way they lead their team, don't assume they see it too. Probably what they see is simply that their organisation or team just doesn't achieve what they want them to achieve.

No matter how much you know that the real problem with a lack of sales is the client's “marketing funnel” not the skills of their salespeople, don't assume your potential client sees that too.

No matter how much you know that coaching (or training or consulting or an online program) is the perfect way of helping them, don't assume they see that too.

Always start from where the client is.

If the issue they see is low sales, don't jump straight to your solution for improving sales, assuming they know it's the best answer. Start with the problem itself then show them why your solution is the best for them.

If they've never hired a coach or consultant before, don't assume they know the value of using one. Start by talking about the results they'll see, then show them how they can best get that through coaching.

Always start with the problem the client sees. Not what you think it is or the solution you know will work. Get on the same page as your potential client before leading them to the right answer.

Because assuming they know what their problem really is and what the right solution is will kill your sales.

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A surprise reunion

Posted on December 10th, 2017.

I met up with an old friend I'd not seen for nearly 30 years recently.

It was one of those weird coincidences as it happened just a few days after a mutual friend from back in the day had asked if I knew how he was doing.

Very, very well it turned out.

Which would have surprised our mutual friend as she was actually worried about him. In her view, he “didn't really have any skills”.

What she really meant was that he didn't do well at school.

The thing is that school rewards good all-rounders academically. And people who don't rock the boat.

But life is very different. Life rewards people who are really good at one in-demand skill. There's no need to be good at many things.

And sometimes in life, you've got to rock the boat to make waves.

In John's case, he'd tried a number of jobs after school, but had eventually harnessed his natural grasp of mechanical things and ended up setting up his own business around it. And the business had been a great success.

I'm smiling thinking about his success right now because he's a nice guy and thoroughly deserves what he's got.

And it's a nice reminder that you don't have to be a great all-rounder to be a success at marketing too. All it takes is one brilliant lead magnet, one reliable way to get that lead magnet in front of potential clients, one method for nurturing relationships and one way to turn those relationships into paying clients.

(And frankly, you don't have to be great at all of those – just OK at them all and great at one of them).

You don't need half a dozen different ways of generating leads or a myriad of complex nurture “funnels”. Just get something simple to cover each step. Then repeat.

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You don’t need to do any of this

Posted on December 7th, 2017.

If you're looking to win more clients then you're probably on a few email lists in addition to mine :)

And so the chances are you've had more than a few experts telling you about their “one best way” to win clients that you must use if you want to succeed.

I first became a consultant in 1994 and a few years after that I started being asked to win clients as part of my role. And I've been helping other professionals to win clients since I set up my own business in 2007.

So I can fairly confidently say that in my experience, there is no “one best way” to win clients that you must use.

No matter what the experts say, you don't need to use Facebook Ads to send people to an automated webinar and a sales, ahem, strategy call to win clients.

Nor do you need a fancy elevator pitch that somehow compels clients to hire you the instant they hear it.

And you don't need to send an email every day filled with manufactured controversy to try to create the impression you have a personality and that it's “you and them against the world”.

You don't need to badger people with Linkedin messages “adding value” they didn't ask for or pestering them to get on a call with you or join the group you set up to market to them with.

And you don't need to find the one thing you're the best in the world at, hoping that somehow clients will flock to your door to get it.

I'm exaggerating for effect of course. All of these things work for some people. The point is that you don't need to do any of them. There's no “one best way” you must use. Only what works for you.

The reason so many people tell you there is one best way is twofold.

Partly it's self-interest. The “one best way” is what they want to sell you.

And partly it's lack of experience. That “one way” worked for them.

Or it's the only way they were taught (it frightens me how many people there are out there offering to teach consultants and coaches how to win more clients using facebook ads, automated webinars and group programs whose only experience of doing so is a course they took from someone else teaching how to win more clients using facebook ads, automated webinars and group programs).

If you've got any real life experience you'll know that there's always more than one way to do things.

And when it comes to winning clients, the key is to find a way that works for you and matches your skills and preferences.

Of course, there are some things you must do. Some principles you must adhere to.

You must figure out what you're great at that clients value.

You must find a way to connect with those clients that allows you to add value to them.

And you must show up on a regular basis in their lives to add more value, build credibility and establish trust.

But there are lots of different ways you can do each of these steps.

If you enjoy speaking on stage and you're good at it, that could be your way of connecting with potential clients. It's going to work an awful lot better than trying to teach yourself facebook ads if the technical stuff just isn't your thing.

Or maybe you're good at writing: try blog posts and regular emails.

Maybe you're a great networker: connecting with influencers in your field and interviewing them for a podcast might work for you.

All of the “one best way” methods work for someone. The trick is to find the ones that work for you and that you'll actually do.

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My simple solution to “selling”

Posted on November 29th, 2017.

I've found there are two types of people in this world when it comes to sales.

There's a minority of people who enjoy selling. Who get a buzz from sales meetings and love doing them.

If you're in that category, this email isn't for you.

This email is for the majority of us who see selling as a necessary evil. Something we know we need to do to get clients, but we wish we didn’t have to. Or that it wasn’t so painful.

Back when I worked for Gemini Consulting in the 90s we had some excellent sales training. They took people like me who were uncomfortable selling and taught us techniques we could use to help clients get more clarity on their problems, see the full impact, and motivate them to do something about it.

Armed with those techniques and targets for $1m, $2m and eventually $5m+ of consulting to sell, I got pretty good at it.

But I never enjoyed it.

When the pressure was off, I reverted to type and avoided sales meetings. That rarely resulted in good things happening.

So over time, I discovered two “solutions” to selling.

One is attitude adjustment. Try to become more like the people who enjoy selling. Tell yourself that if you can do things to help people then it's your duty to sell them those things. Remind yourself that timid salespeople have skinny kids and other such clichés.

That never worked for me. but it might work for you. It's the underlying theme behind pretty much all the “sell without selling” training you see so much of these days. It simply relabels selling as helping and teaches you the same techniques salespeople use under different names.

I found a different path worked best for me.

Instead of trying to make myself enjoy and get good at the type of sales meetings I had, I found that I could change the type of meetings I had so that I enjoyed them. 

What I mean by that is that if you only ever have “sales meetings” with people who are already 90% ready to buy and just have a few remaining questions, those meetings are radically different to when you meet with a colder prospect and have to sell them.

All that clever questioning technique to draw out the client's problems or goals isn't needed if they've already done that themselves. All that exploration of the impact of their problems so they realise the importance of making a change isn't needed if they've already done that for themselves. All that positioning of your solution and why you're better than your competitors isn't needed if they've already done that for themselves.

A lot of sales techniques you learn talk about how sales is about making sure there's a good fit between what your clients need and what you have to offer. The truth, however, is that if you examine those techniques, they're not really about genuinely finding out whether there's a fit. They're really all about trying to convince the client there is.

But if the client is already pre-sold and already wants to work with you but just has a few outstanding questions, then your conversation with them takes on a different tone. It really does become about making sure there's a good fit that works for both of you – since you don't need to convince them of anything at that point.

Is that type of meeting pie-in-the-sky?

It is for most people because they don't have enough high-quality leads. And they don't do enough to educate their potential clients before they speak to them, so at their first meeting or call the client is still relatively cold and there's still a lot of convincing to do. So a traditional sales meeting is needed.

But if you have a marketing system that produces a surplus of leads: people who genuinely need what you have and see that you're the best person to help them. And if that system nurtures your relationship with them so that they trust you and believe you'll be able to help them. Then there's no convincing needed in your “sales meetings”. It becomes a genuine discussion about whether working together would be a good idea.

For me, that's the best solution to selling.

Sure, some people you speak to will be warmer than others.

But the better your marketing system works, the less hard you have to work at selling.

For people like me who find selling uncomfortable, it's a much better solution than trying to fix our mindset and become masters at something we don't really want to become masters at.

So if you find selling uncomfortable, I'm going to suggest that the solution for you probably isn't a training course on how to sell better (even if it's being pitched as “sell without selling”).

The solution for you is probably to learn how to generate more high-quality leads and nurture them so that you don't need to sell (so much).

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The day my sales conversions improved

Posted on November 26th, 2017.

I've never been someone who enjoys sales meetings or calls.

They're vital, of course, so I learned how to do them pretty well. And my results were decent.

Like most people, I used a variation of asking my potential clients questions about their main challenges and exploring what the impact of those challenges was. Then I would lay out a roadmap for them which largely consisted of the problems they just told me converted into steps in a plan to solve them.

That's pretty standard in the world of coaching. Sometimes it's labelled as a strategy session. Sometimes a free initial consultation. But the essence remains the same: ask them about their problems and turn those problems into a roadmap to solve them.

And it worked. Or at least it sort of did.

I found that it was rarely all that effective with more sophisticated clients. Ones who, I assume, could pretty easily list their problems and flip them into a roadmap themselves.

And over time, it seemed to get less and less effective with most people. I suppose it was a reflection of the technique being more commonplace and often overused. Once you've had 2 or 3 coaches ask you about your problems and flip them into a roadmap you tend to be less impressed the next time someone does it.

And, of course, one of the golden rules of this type of approach is that you mustn't try to solve the client's problems in the session itself. Solving the problem is part of what they pay for to implement the roadmap.

Eventually, I started breaking that golden rule.

I couldn't help myself. I had a bunch of ideas that I thought could help, so I shared them.

Gently, of course. I didn't claim I knew the answer. I just shared a few things that had worked with other clients in similar situations I'd seen.

And you know what? It worked.

Despite the dire warnings about “giving away the store” in a sales meeting, what I found was that it gave my potential client confidence that I had new ideas they'd not tried before and that I knew how to get results for them.

I reckon the reason it worked is simply due to increasing market sophistication.

The first time you tell a coach your problems and they tell you confidently that they can help you and give you a simple plan for how they're going to do it; you believe them.

After you've been through that process a few times and not got results, you need to see a little more proof.

You need the person in front of you to show genuine insight into your issue. You need them to show you a few new ideas you've not seen and tried before.

So when I did so, I converted more meetings into clients as a result.

Perhaps more importantly, even when they didn't become clients, I genuinely helped them.

For me, being able to help people in sales meetings means I feel good about them. And that means I'm less likely to put them off or avoid them, and more likely to bring my best into each meeting.

A win for me and a win for the people I'm meeting with.

Maybe trying to give more value in sales meetings will make them work better for you too.

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Stop marketing for a minute

Posted on November 19th, 2017.

Sometimes, I find, the best way to win business is to forget about marketing for a minute.

Think instead of better ways you can serve your existing clients.

How you can add more value to them.

Additional things you can do for them that will make their lives or business better.

Then after you've drawn out the very best ways you can be more valuable, put your marketing hat back on.

Can some of these things be packaged up into additional services you could offer to existing or ex-clients?

Will adding some of these things allow you to charge more for your services? Or could they help you charge in a better way (a regular retainer instead of one-off projects for example)?

Or could the increased value simply get clients to stay for longer and recommend you more?

All these are likely to be a faster route to winning more business than most of the things we call marketing.

Try them.

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A simple 6-figure lesson learned

Posted on November 19th, 2017.

I had an interesting chat on Skype a while back with an ex-client who I keep in touch with.

He's come a long way since we worked together to help him establish a focus for his business and his value proposition, and to identify the marketing strategies that would position him as a leader in his field.

On our chat, he told me about something he'd done recently that really helped him make the big shift to turning over six figures in his business every month.

In many ways, it was laughably simple. Something I'm sure you'll know about. But I wonder whether you're making the same mistake yourself.

Simply put, he was taking on too many marketing projects at once.

He was developing too many new products and trying to market too many in parallel in different markets.

The switch he made was simply to focus on doing one thing at a time.

Now I'm sure that sounds overly simplistic. But it made a huge difference for him.

Previously he was making a little progress every week with each project. Which meant that he wasn't seeing the results from any of them. And he was beginning to get depressed about his ability to get things done since progress seemed so glacial.

Not to mention that his brain was constantly flip-flopping between each different project, market or client.

By simply focusing on one project at a time he was able to finish the project he focused on quicker. Meaning he saw results quicker.

And seeing results motivated him for the next project. And the next. With no having to constantly reset, remember and juggle all the different ideas from each project.

Sounds simple but it made a huge difference for him. Could it do the same for you?

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The secret source of leads hidden in plain sight

Posted on November 15th, 2017.

Last week I talked about how most people struggle when it comes to generating leads for their business.

But there's a “secret” source of new leads that almost everyone overlooks.

Perhaps the best source of new leads is old leads.

Many years ago Brian Carroll made the important observation that something like 95% of visitors to your website aren't ready to buy when they visit. But up to 70% of them will buy at some time in the next couple of years. It's just that they might well not buy from you.

That's what I mean by your best new leads being old leads.

Unfortunately, what most of us do when our leads turn out not to be ready to buy (as most of them aren't) is we move on to other “hot leads” and we stop communicating with those “tire kickers” who weren't ready right away.

Of course, 99% of those people not ready to buy aren't tire kickers. They're just not ready to buy yet, or you haven't done enough to convince them you're the right person to work with them.

In 3 months, 9 months, a year, maybe two years they will be ready to buy.

And who will they buy from?

The person who's basically ignored them for 2 years? Or has sent the odd nagging email to check if they're ready to do something yet?

Or the person who's nurtured a relationship with them over that period?

Someone who's sent them valuable information. Who's asked and answered questions. Who's kept in touch in a friendly and useful way.

Those old leads can be your very best new leads – if you treat them right

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It’s not the tools, it’s you

Posted on November 12th, 2017.

I was involved in a bit of a debate recently about whether you should invest heavily in things like websites, showcase videos, even a fancy wardrobe. Whether you need to “look the part” from day 1 or whether you can start small.

My own opinion is that you can bootstrap and build over time.

But actually, that's not important. What struck me after a while was that the focus of the discussion was all wrong.

Everything was about the tools. Should you pay a fortune for a website? Should you buy this, that or the other?

But in my experience, it's not really the tools that make the difference. It's you and what you do.

A brilliant website and showcase video aren't going to win you clients if you don't get out, meet people, build relationships or demonstrate your expertise. Conversely, I think if you get out, meet people, build relationships and demonstrate your expertise you could well win clients without needing a brilliant website or showreel or any of the other trappings.

Or maybe your thing could be creating great content for your site, doing webinars, writing emails, engaging online. Same principle: it's what you do, not what you buy.

So if you find yourself worrying about the things you should buy to win you more clients, you might well be on the wrong track. Focus instead on what you should do.